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older workers …??!? time for a revolt

April 21, 2009 - 12:34 pm

this is a severe situation...those of us who changed the world in the 60s & 70s are now too old to work??? we don’t have technical skills (like Excel!!!) the truth is out:

from a NYTimes article

Workers ages 45 and over form a disproportionate share of the hard-luck recession category, the long-term unemployed — those who have been out of work for six months or longer, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

the issues seem to revolve around what I consider to be seriously harmful myths:

1. Supervisors worry about how to manage older subordinates: ‘How can I supervise someone who has more experience than I have?’
2. Older workers, who have a lifetime of preferences and skills, are essentially unique-shaped pegs that can fit into a limited number of holes.

I cannot express enough my outrage. I am nearing 60, have worked since I’m 15, raised a child, have technical skills born in the inception of the ‘computer revolution’, know how to build my own system, in addition to advanced technical skills, can speak and write English with accuracy, can work 60+ hours a week without blinking, can train, inspire and entertain younger workers in my field with well-delivered and humorous tales, have no savings, and am now out of a job. My job(s) are sent to a junior in India who can’t spell.

In looking for work, I can be adaptable, resourceful, and positive, to a point. I will accept less money than I have earned in the past…It was never really about the money – I love what I do, so if I can paid at all, I’m happy.

So, now, what to do? I can’t pay my insurance (have been carrying my own for years), can’t get even a low-level job because they think I’ll leave, and explore other business models for products and services that are not in my existing skill set, BUT I am game for acquiring new skills, and think of my experience as something valuable and useful.

I am out-sourced, out-of-work, and not able to think that I’ll magically find ‘my love’ around the next corner, probably because I have enough experience to know it isn’t there.

Should I be depressed? you bet. Should I be angry at the injustice of it all? you bet. Should I start or stop complaining? no way.

This issue is truly disturbing…I saw a blog on “‘we should just wait for the old people to die so we can have free drugs, gay marriage and no rules”. This was from a 20 yr old at MIT…whose parents were paying for his education…

If the younger generation had some galvanising issue, like we did in the 60s, they might have some clue, but they don’t, and so all the reasons cited above for age/gender/cultural discrimination are accurate, but I don’t see them challenged, with any authority or fire. We need to get our fire up, oldsters…just like we did before, providing the stage on which these vacuous young people are now standing.

Comments

Jack White

April 22, 2009 12:34 pm

This is a great post, and I agree with you. I believe you’ve already visited one of my sites, http://www.laidoffat50.com/blog. I think you’re more angry than I am and a better writer to boot. I read the same article and the same comments in the NY Times that you did.

Did you notice this strange notion that baby boomers (I hate that name, I prefer genR, as in Gen Rock, or something like that, don’t like being called a baby forever) are all rich on their 401Ks and ready to retire? I’m reading a book on personal branding by a guy in his twenties, and he talks about the need for his generation to have mutually respectful relations with Gen X. No real mention of us, as if we don’t exist. It’s a book about how to be a massively successful conformist. It’s for the generation born between 1985 and 2001. Yeah, 2001, like my 7-year-old daughter, as if she’s ready to start working on her personal branding.

We’re here, we’re not going away. And I think you have the right attitude. Be mad, but get even, or whatever. Never stop creating and never give up and by the time we die in 35 years, the kid at MIT will be in his fifties and maybe he’ll have a different perspective.

admin

April 23, 2009 12:34 pm

Thanks Jack…I know this is another myth… that we all have cushy nests…I managed to buy a house (an old farmhouse that I’ve been fixing up these past years, and have 1 year to go on paying off …certainly not anything beyond my means, until now) and that is the only thing I have, besides a 12 year old car and a really good brain) …

there is a remarkable set of conversations on MSNBC http://www.newsvine.com/_question/2009/03/11/2534051-which-generation-is-suffering-most-in-this-downturn?pc=20&sp=180#discussion site that really shows the feelings from a range of ages…

so, the passion we had in the 60s for injustice is not gone, just scattered…any in using the www to have these discussions, I am seeing what looks like a virtual be-in! so, I am as mad as a hornet, but refuse, REFUSE to be taken down by this…this…this mess….it’s just hard to stay funny!

Jack White

April 26, 2009 12:34 pm

It’s hard to stay funny is funny.

Do you live in a rural area? Where I live, the Baltimore/DC metro area things aren’t that bad, under 7 percent unemployment last I looked, and it seems there’s still a good deal of tech work.

me

April 26, 2009 12:34 pm

I live in Brooklyn, and upstate NY when I can get there. I’d like to be there all the time, working 10-12 hrs a day in my cozy den…

I just posted the stats on Tech jobs from Indeed.com, on the UP,DOWN, ALL AROUND” page…we’ve gone down, down in the total number available, while the total number sought has gone up, up…

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